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I would like it if the part of Tinderbox that handles HTML generation
and import was "pluggable". I.e., that we could tell TB that export
means "run the file through this pipeline" and import means "run the
file through that pipeline" where the pipelines could be note specific
(for export) and file type specific (for import).
That would be way open and way, way cool.
On Oct 14, 2004, at 6:21 PM, David J Garbutt wrote:
>> On Oct 12, 2004, at 4:48 PM, Mark Smith wrote:
>>> Have you considered Markdown instead?
>>
>> I had actually considered Markdown first. I like the faux-markup
>> philosophy of making things look "correct" even in plain text.
>> However,
>> I couldn't find any note of its ability to do good typography. I
>> didn't
>> know about Smartypants, so maybe I'll have to give it another look.
>> I'd
>> probably be happy with *just* smartypants, really. I didn't plan on
>> doing much inline markup.
>>
>> Still, Textile appears to do more of this kind of thing (e.g. making
>> 4x6 into 4__AT__#215;6). And I rather like the idea of using one
>> preflighting script instead of two.
>>
>> Textile can do tables (not that I'm planning on it). It will also do
>> (C), (R), and (TM).
>>
>> My *other* reason is that Red Cloth is in Ruby, which is my tinkering
>> project at the moment...
> HI,
>
> I am also playing with Ruby, and I also came across markdown and
> textile.
>
> My take is that these should be TB enhancements.
> :-O (I don't meant Ruby...)
>
> It seems to me they have major advantages over what we get now with
> text and
> HTML export-
> 1) reversible (certainly true for markdown*). This means we could have
> an
> import from HTML page into a TB note with formatting that could be
> regenerated again on export. This would bring a lot of leverage for
> snippet
> collectors.
> 2) much better shot at import text from other places, written on
> phones etc.
> 3) possibility of improved layout from text export view
> 4) each is a simple and capable and consistent set of rules which are
> easy
> to learn.
>
> Of course I can see why Eastgate might not like this idea but perhaps
> if we
> say 'please do it' they will think about it carefully.
> They already took the brave step of opening the TB files themselves to
> XML
> at a time when few applications did, and I think it is now very clear
> that
> that feature is a major selling point for TB.
> The above initiatives are more about fixing a way to move between the
> two
> codings than to present one particular tool or language. So they could
> be
> implemented with proprietary routines
>
> What do you think?
>
> Dave
>
> * the reversal program is not called markdown but something else
>
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>
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-- Gary Warren King, Lab Manager EKSL East, University of Massachusetts * 413 577 0176 "I am not a number, I am a free man! " -- #6, The Prisoner --Apple-Mail-10--445477296 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII I would like it if the part of Tinderbox that handles HTML generation and import was "pluggable". I.e., that we could tell TB that export means "run the file through this pipeline" and import means "run the file through that pipeline" where the pipelines could be note specific (for export) and file type specific (for import). That would be way open and way, way cool. On Oct 14, 2004, at 6:21 PM, David J Garbutt wrote: <excerpt><excerpt>On Oct 12, 2004, at 4:48 PM, Mark Smith wrote: <excerpt>Have you considered Markdown instead? </excerpt> I had actually considered Markdown first. I like the faux-markup philosophy of making things look "correct" even in plain text. However, I couldn't find any note of its ability to do good typography. I didn't know about Smartypants, so maybe I'll have to give it another look. I'd probably be happy with *just* smartypants, really. I didn't plan on doing much inline markup. Still, Textile appears to do more of this kind of thing (e.g. making 4x6 into 4__AT__#215;6). And I rather like the idea of using one preflighting script instead of two. Textile can do tables (not that I'm planning on it). It will also do (C), (R), and (TM). My *other* reason is that Red Cloth is in Ruby, which is my tinkering project at the moment... </excerpt>HI, I am also playing with Ruby, and I also came across markdown and textile. My take is that these should be TB enhancements. :-O (I don't meant Ruby...) It seems to me they have major advantages over what we get now with text and HTML export- 1) reversible (certainly true for markdown*). This means we could have an import from HTML page into a TB note with formatting that could be regenerated again on export. This would bring a lot of leverage for snippet collectors. 2) much better shot at import text from other places, written on phones etc. 3) possibility of improved layout from text export view 4) each is a simple and capable and consistent set of rules which are easy to learn. Of course I can see why Eastgate might not like this idea but perhaps if we say 'please do it' they will think about it carefully. They already took the brave step of opening the TB files themselves to XML at a time when few applications did, and I think it is now very clear that that feature is a major selling point for TB. The above initiatives are more about fixing a way to move between the two codings than to present one particular tool or language. So they could be implemented with proprietary routines What do you think? Dave * the reversal program is not called markdown but something else -- Dave Garbutt Ingelsteinweg 4d CH 4143 Dornach +41 79 326 8970 (Home: 061 692 6349) http://www.mybasel.ch/verkehr_regioplan_karte.cfm?ID=Strassen,14139&ParaZoom &Zoom=3000 Peace is made with yesterday's enemies. What is the alternative? Shimon Peres, Israeli politician _______________________________________________ Tb mailing list Tb__AT__lee-phillips.org http://lee-phillips.org/mailman/listinfo/tb </excerpt>-- Gary Warren King, Lab Manager EKSL East, University of Massachusetts * 413 577 0176 "I am not a number, I am a free man! " -- <fontfamily><param>Verdana</param><color><param>3333,3333,3333</param><x-tad-bigger>#6, </x-tad-bigger></color></fontfamily>The Prisoner --Apple-Mail-10--445477296--Received on Mon Oct 18 17:33:26 2004
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